Does God really exist?
Highlights from our meeting on 05/07/03
- Isn't God just a story that we have been told for so long that we simply accept it as true?
- Is God Love?
- Is God is just energy?
- Don't sudden unexplained jumps in evolution, such as flying, feathered dinosaurs, suggest the existence of God?
- Is God the answer we use to answer the questions to which we have no other answer?
- Does God, then, represent everything that is mysterious in out lives?
- But what about direct personal experience?
- Don't many people report having direct personal experiences which seem to be of a divine nature?
- Could they just be due to brain chemistry anomalies?
- Don't certain conditions or situations seem to promote the likelihood of having such experiences?
- Don't near death experiences seem to bring about such phenomenon?
- Can't some psychotropic drugs also induce such experiences?
- Does the demonstrable involvement of brain chemistry activity invalidate the interpretation that these are divine experiences?
- Don't all human experiences involve some sort of brain chemistry activity?
- Haven't researchers demonstrated the ability to invoke all sorts of subjective experiences by stimulating various parts of the brain?
- Don't psychotic individuals also seem to have very convincing hallucinations that can be traced to internal brain chemistry dysfunction?
- So what is the difference between the experience of seeing an on-coming truck and the hallucination of an on-coming truck?
- What is the difference between the experience of the divine and the hallucination of the experience of the divine?
- Won't the brain chemistry activity be very similar?
- Isn't the difference in the source of the stimulation?
- In the case of hallucinations, isn't the source some internal dysfunction or short circuit?
- In the other case, isn't the source from somewhere other than the individual himself?
- Isn't another difference the eventual outcome or effect of the experience?
- Isn't it true that the hallucination of a truck can frighten you, but the actual truck can flatten you?
- Don't scientists emphasize the need for repeatability and independent verification of empirical experience to determine its validity?
- Aren't there specific spiritual practices which, when followed diligently over a long period of time, dependably lead to certain experiences of a consciousness greater than ones own?
- Is science even relevant in the search for God?
- Can something that is inherently beyond the rational mind be comprehended by the rational mind?
- As long as we are stuck in our rational minds, aren't we like little mice scurrying about in our little world with no awareness of the perspective of the eagle?
- Don't the mystics say that in the higher state of consciousness, all becomes one and time ceases to exist?
- So does that mean that if I go into a higher state of consciousness and become one with the truck, I won't get flattened?
- Don't we need a way to reconcile great spiritual truths with plain common sense?
- Doesn't there need to be some vertical integration between the world of the eagle and the world of the mouse?
- Well, if the eagle wants to consume the mouse, doesn't it have to descend into the world of the mouse?
- Can the eagle, then, operate in both worlds?
- How can a mouse or man experience the higher world?
- Is it a higher world, or simply this world properly seen?
- Where does the wave need to look to experience the ocean?
- Waves appear to be separate, but isn't it true that, when properly seen, they are no longer separate, but rather undulating manifestations of one great ocean?
- Is God the great wholeness, of which we, and everything else in the universe, are but fleeting, undulating manifestations?
- Is this wholeness, alive and conscious?
- Does it have a will?
- Is it still evolving?
- Don't all living things have a need to grow?
- Is there anything living that is not changing?
- If God or the Universe is alive, isn't it also changing and growing?
- Is God, then, a work in progress, changing and growing as we and everything else in the Universe are changing and growing?
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